Hello to all

If I m aloud I can add about the petrological collections, as our mineral are very poor, that we separate them depending on their origin (Crete, Greece, International) and then to the three main categories, (Igneous (volcanic, plutonic), Sedimentary (all types) and Metamorphic. Each sample has its collection introduction number with all information about the collector, exact location, year of collection etc.

With many greetings to all of you and keep safe

Babbis Fassoulas


On 3/4/2020 6:35 μ.μ., B.Berning@landesmuseum.at wrote:

Dear all,

 

we have organised our mineralogical collection at two levels: 1) regional vs. (inter)national objects, and

2) according to the classification of minerals based on Strunz, i.e. based on their chemical composition. See here: Hugo Strunz, Ernest H. Nickel: Strunz Mineralogical Tables. Chemical-structural Mineral Classification System. 9. Auflage. E. Schweizerbart’sche Verlagsbuchhandlung (Nägele u. Obermiller), Stuttgart 2001, ISBN 3-510-65188-X.);

and here: https://www.mineralienatlas.de/lexikon/index.php/Mineralsystematik%20nach%20Strunz%209.%20Auflage

 

In England and America the collections are probably rather arranged according to the Dana classification, which is based on the crystalline structure instead; see e.g. here:

http://webmineral.com/danaclass.shtml#.XodTYUxuLSE

 

Our petrological collection is totally unorganised at present...

If I will get to work on it in this life, I will coarsely separate the objects into igneous, metamorphic, sedimentary, evaporitic (salt, gypsum) and organic (coal), and again according to locality. But we only have a small collection, so you’d better ask someone else for details.

 

All the best

 

Björn

 

 

Von: cetaf_earthsc@cetaf.simplelists.com [mailto:cetaf_earthsc@cetaf.simplelists.com] Im Auftrag von Rasser, Michael W.
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. April 2020 17:19
An: cetaf_earthsc@cetaf.simplelists.com
Betreff: Re: AW[2]: [CETAF_ESG] requesting your knowledge on ES collections.

 

Dear All,

yes, that is a good question: what about geology, petrology and mineralogy?

I assume it should be the same, but taxon being replaced by sediment/rock/mineral name?

Greetings, Michael

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Am Fr., 3. Apr. 2020 um 17:01 Uhr schrieb Eder, Johanna <johanna.eder@smns-bw.de>:

Dear all,

for palaeontology I agree with what has been said already. What about petrology and mineralogy and geology collections?

It would be very useful to receive input from those of you who are curating such collections.

Best wishes, take care

Johanna

 

Am Fr., 3. Apr. 2020 um 16:24 Uhr schrieb Jiří Kvaček <jiri_kvacek@nm.cz>:


OH, yes. I agree with that.
People who are alive should not be mentioned there. 
Jiri

 
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Dear Laura,


Agree with Steffen on this - we never show personal data (except taxon author names and responsible curators) in any kind of export/database.


All the best

andreas


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Von: cetaf_earthsc@cetaf.simplelists.com <cetaf_earthsc@cetaf.simplelists.com> im Auftrag von Steffen Kiel <Steffen.Kiel@nrm.se>
Gesendet: Freitag, 03. April 2020 16:00:01
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Betreff: RE: AW: [CETAF_ESG] requesting your knowledge on ES collections.

Hi Laura,
   I agree with what’s been written so far. Just one comment regarding ‘, COLLECTOR NAME’ – this may conflict with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) in case the collector is still alive.

Have a nice weekend,
Steffen


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Dear All

Jiri's comments covered also me. I think these info are ok for the needs.

With greetings

Babbis Fassoulas
On 3/4/2020 10:53 π.μ., Rasser, Michael W. wrote:
For some reason, my answer a few minutes ago was missing the subject line. In order to avoid confusion, I am re-sending it with the subject header. Sorry for this.

Am Fr., 3. Apr. 2020 um 09:50 Uhr schrieb Rasser, Michael W. <michael.rasser@smns-bw.de<mailto:michael.rasser@smns-bw.de>>:
Dear Laura, below are my comments on this:

1)      How are Earth Science Collections curated and organized?  I said
mainly defined by taxonomy, geographical origin, Storage and
Stratigraphic age (based on the Synthesys classifications) Are there any
more?

I agree with Jiri that this is enough!

Just to give a comparison with Andreas' list, our collections are organised and curated not only by systematic, but they cover all of the keywords above:
Level 1:
Amber
Amphibians, Fishes, Reptiles
Palaeobotany
Paleozoic and Triassic Invertebrates
Jurassic and Cretaceous Invertebrates
Tertiary and Quaternary Invertebates
Quaternary mammals
Tertiary mammals
Level 2:
Each collection is then organised by locality, stratigraphy, systematics, or a mixture of them, resp.

2)      What is the minimum information that would be required in World
collections catalogue for the discoverability of Earth Science
collections and for a research to locate particular collections of
interest.

Not sure, if you mean discoverability of the collection itself, or of the museums objects that are housed in the respective collection. I assume that you mean discoverability of the objects:

 *   Taxon name (no higher taxon name needed)
 *   Repository number
 *   Stratigraphy
 *   Geography
 *   Housing institution
 *   Curator / contact address
3)      What descriptive information should be considered mandatory or
desirable for each Collection?

 *   Name and address of institution
 *   Responsible curator / contact person
 *   Stratigraphic focus
 *   Systematic focus
 *   Geographic focus
All the best and stay healthy!
Michael


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